xcb/ Meetings/ 2007-11-04

Minutes for IRC meeting at 18:00 UTC (10am PST). Feel free to expand on this with as much detail as you want. Also available: the ?raw log.

Attendees: Jamey Sharp, Christoph Pfister, Vincent Torri, Josh Triplett, Julien Cristau, Rob Taylor, Thomas Hunger, Ian Osgood, Bart Massey

  • Review the TODO list.
    • Define new goals for near future.
    • Missing extensions / features.
    • Fix Sync extension init request.
    • Fix struct padding issue.
    • Short-term fix: __attribute__((packed))?
    • Long-term fix: rewrite output layer?
    • Output layer could use a mechanism like output iterators, writing a struct at a time. xcb_foo_request_start(), xcb_foo_request_some_component()*, xcb_foo_request_end()
  • We're almost ready for a new libxcb release, after:
  • Review remaining issues blocking use of Xlib/XCB by default.
    • What about the other deadlock with ico (process_responses)?
  • Find bug reports and e-mail that hasn't been properly responded to.
    • There are 27 open bugs in bugzilla; find the important ones.
    • 5960: arguably not XCB's bug; apps should retry if they want that.
    • 6682 (X meets Z): not ready yet
    • 6812 (change isvoid to flags): API/ABI break, not very important
    • 9944: should already be fixed in git and the upcoming release
    • 10637: code generation bug, not critical
  • Bugs against things other than the XCB core:
    • 9463: needs to happen, eventually
    • 11285 (memory leak in Xlib/XCB): need investigation
    • 11751: probable process_responses bug, needs investigation
  • Review the new Python code generator.
    • Who has Python skills?
  • Bart partway done with converting x11perf to XCB.
    • May need some help.
    • Suggested changes to util
  • util canonization schedule / plan
    • Obviously not everything is at the same stage
    • aux has high priority
  • Getting more projects to convert to XCB
    • ecore-xcb: running, but some points missing [Vincent]
    • porting toolkits based on evas and ecore [Vincent]
    • keyboard hell!
    • Wine, gstreamer (potentially fixes locking bugs), mplayer
    • Window managers
    • Language bindings
  • Documentation needs help
    • wiki is broken
    • move core api docs into doxygen headers [Bart]
    • generate protocol docs from XML comments [Thomas, Vincent]
    • add error management in the tutorial [Vincent]
  • Include xinput.xml in proto
  • consider bugs 5962, 6105, 6684, 6686, 5958 for python generator
  • Ping Zack Rusin about porting Qt

Future meetings: - xcb-util refactor and release (Bart) - XKB, XKB2, how to stop butchering kittens (coordinate with Daniel Stone)